Seafair and Semaine du Golfe

[John P]

Although it is months after the event, I have this afternoon got around to posting an account of Seafair 2010 on the internet, this is the link: http://www.sail.btinternet.co.uk/seafair10.htm

Seafair is a biennial event so it will not happen next year, but there will be Semaine du Golfe from 30 May to 5 June 2011, I just wondered, is anyone here thinking of going to that one?

John

[Paul H (admin)]

John,

Those dates clash with our (popular) Barton Turf 2011 meet over May bank holiday weekend (28th-30th May)

cheers
Paul

[Port-Na-Storm]

Which wouldn't actually stop me from going. One of these years with the right boat I'd really like to give it a try.  

Graham

[John P]

Sorry about an error in my post at the top of this thread, I did of course mean biennial, not biannual, does make quite a difference, factor of four I suppose.  I have now corrected that mistake, which makes me aware of an advantage of this forum over the Yahoo one - an author can correct mistakes like that and if you get involved in a flame war and write something very rude about someone you can change your mind later and alter it to something a bit more diplo.

Pity about Semaine du Golfe clashing with the Barton Turf event since I would definitely like to get to Barton Turf sometime, espeicially as it is a joint event with the AYRS of which I am a member.

As for Graham's comment about needing the right boat to go to Semaine du Golfe, the event caters for pretty well all kinds and all sizes of traditional style boats (and a few non-traditional boats seem to sneak in without upsetting anyone too much). The same goes for Seafair. At Semaine du Golfe, the limiting factor could be having enough freeboard that you dont get swamped in the tide races, or alternatively having enough bouyancy that it doesent matter if you do get swamped. The tidal currents can build up choppy water even if there is no wind at all. I know that a group with traditional Thames rowing skiffs with low freeboard found conditions difficult during Seafair 2008, so for Seafair 2010 they just kept to the upper reaches of the Cleddau and got on fine. DCA member Ralf R. probably had about the smallest boat at Semaine du Golfe 2009, that was his home built lug rigged pram dinghy, probably about 8 or maybe 9 foot length. I think he had plenty of bouyancy and he is a very experienced sailor so maybe he found a way round most of the rough water. Your Coot dinghy should fit in fine at any of these events.  

John

[Port-Na-Storm]

I'll need to get those buoyancy bags fitted if I'm taking Coot out in those conditions.

Or,  Get on with the design and build of that optimum little 12ft raid /cruising boat which often gets talked about round here.

Have a Happy New Year everyone.
Graham

[Anders]

"Or,  Get on with the design and build of that optimum little 12ft raid /cruising boat which often gets talked about round here."

Well, thats interesting and I would like to know more.
I know that using length as the factor of a boats size doesnt say much. Very often breadth and weight is more important. I mean, there´s a big difference between a 12´catboat or a 12´Thames skiff.
I personally think 12´is in the middle of nothing. To big to cartop and if I was to use a trailer, I would prefer something a little longer but not nescessarily wider if it was to be used with oars as well.

[Port-Na-Storm]

Hi Anders,
You could be starting something here.

The thinking goes a bit like this, 10ft is too small, 16 ft is a bit big single handed especially if you want a reasonable amount of beam to stand up to a good size rig, so you end up somewhere between 12 - 14 ft.

Give it plenty of free-board and buoyancy to keep you safe and dry, a boom tent for sleeping in and she'll look after you. She'll still be easily handled ashore and can be towed with a small car.  

If you are more inclined to row then yes you'd go for the extra length and keep the beam down, but as always its a compromise.

We can now wait for the opinions to flood in.

Cheers Graham.

 

[BrianP]

"I personally think 12´is in the middle of nothing."

Wow, here's me loving 12' sailing dinghies. The perfect size for one, or one and less confident crew. Middle of nothing............

See if you like any of these 12' middle of nothings.....

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?106292-Nominations-for-best-12-sailing-dinghy-design

Happy 2011 and good sailing and rowing to all

Brian

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Port-Na-Storm [via UK HBBR Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Anders,
You could be starting something here.

The thinking goes a bit like this, 10ft is too small, 16 ft is a bit big single handed especially if you want a reasonable amount of beam to stand up to a good size rig, so you end up somewhere between 12 - 14 ft.

Give it plenty of free-board and buoyancy to keep you safe and dry, a boom tent for sleeping in and she'll look after you. She'll still be easily handled ashore and can be towed with a small car.  

If you are more inclined to row then yes you'd go for the extra length and keep the beam down, but as always its a compromise.

We can now wait for the opinions to flood in.

Cheers Graham.

 

Port-Na-Storm

http://port-na-storm.blogspot.com/

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[Anders]

Brian, you wrote

I have a feeling that you are Keyhavepotterer, right?

Wow, here's me loving 12' sailing dinghies. The perfect size for one, or one and less confident crew.

In this case, I can remember a discussion on the yahoo group where you wrote that 12 was to small, 14 to big and 13, just right.

The thing is that using length as describing the size of a boat doesnt really say much. Compare a a 12ft catboat with a 12ft thames skiff. Impossible....