What's really happening down at Port-Na-Storm

[Timmo]

Impressive!

Tim

On 26 May 2012, at 19:32, Port-Na-Storm [via UK HBBR Forum] wrote:

Timmo asked how every one else is getting on so here is an update from port-na-storm.

[Ratcatcherjohn]

In reply to Tim,  Things are just a little bit behind schedule, I spent most of the afternoon cutting the boat in half.  (Will this reduce the EA Thames licence ?? )   Mind you the epoxy is going off so fast that I still hope to be afloat somewhen Sunday, with luck in running! John.
 

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Impressive!

Tim

On 26 May 2012, at 19:32, Port-Na-Storm [via UK HBBR Forum] wrote:

Timmo asked how every one else is getting on so here is an update from port-na-storm.

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[BrianP]

That might be the way Mike Storer rigs his lugs - taken from the 1880's sailing canoes. Tie halyard to end of the yard, take back to yard hoist block past mast on the opposite side of the mast to the yard. Through hoist block, to mast head sheeve/block and down mast.

This method described keeps the yard close to the mast and also works well when the sail is reefed.

Brian

[Port-Na-Storm]

Hi Brian,
I've seen the method you describe, and although I'm sure it works well is probably just a bit complicated for Katie.
Cee Dubbs has a method which involves the halyard running inside the rope traveller, and keeps everything where it should be. I just can't remember the exact details.

John why are you cutting your boat in half at this stage? Planning to cut and shut a narrow boat into the gap?  

[tony waller]

 

I really look forward to seeing this on the water. In fact, one of the big anticipations of this trip is seeing all the new boats.

[Chris Waite]

Here you are Grum

This is the picture you were thinking of, (halyard in blue):



However I have to tell you that while I am still convinced it would work very well for a gunter rig, (attention Mirror Men), there is a problem with a true lug, where smartly releasing your halyard allows the un-jawed yard to drop vertically, punching a hole through the fordeck, rather than collapsing gracefully aft to lie alongside the boom

I'm going for Brian's method

CW

[Port-Na-Storm]

Thanks CW that would seem to be it.

Right now I have a very simple loop covered in plastic tube round the mast and yard with the halyard down through it,  and it seems to be working fine. I don't have any topping lift or lazy jack system, in an attempt to keep the thing as simple as possible.
The theory is that the rig, much like the grand old duke,  is either up or down, no inbetweenies.
When it comes down it lies along the deck held against the mast by the plastic tube and the boom downhaul, and the aft end can be kept in place along the side deck by a convenient bungee.

I have to figure out where a few other cleats and fair leads are going to control the mizzen brailing line and the rudder down-haul.

Then I have to work out how to get it on the car roof and keep it there. I'll come back to the topping lift if there's time, maybe by Beale.
 

[momist]

I don't know if this will help, as my sail is probably smaller/different from yours.  The system I use for my standing lug is very simple and uncomplicated.  The halyard comes down from the athwartships dumb sheave at the top of the mast, to the outboard side of the yard, through the hole in the yard, and terminates in a loose bowline around the mast.  The downhaul on the boom keeps the yard down on the knot of the bowline, and that keeps the yard against the mast at any state of reef.  It can fly away a little bit in very strong winds when lowering the sail, (only half as much as a conventional setup) but not if you are pulling the sail down at the same time.  It also prevents the chinese gybe I used to get, with the yard getting to the wrong side of the mast.
Ian

[BrianP]

Graham, just a tip on sheeting the mizzen. You probably do this already, but I found it helped me so I will post here just in case. With a small mizzen on a sailing canoe I found it hard to see how it was set when sat down facing forward as you do. Creaky neck etc.

I tied a knot in the mizzen sheet at the fully sheeted out/running position and a knot at the "on the wind" position. This meant I could always sheet the mizzen reasonably well without having to look. Full in, full out, halfway on a reach and so on.

Brian

[Anders]

Why complicate life on such a small rig, with blogs etc. Is it really necessary.

I was thinking of doing what is done in the picture below. My sail is 60 sqf. Does anyone think its a bad idea. I like simple and no blogs banging around when the rig is lowered and is inside the boat