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The first (of two) Woods Linnets (being built by myself and Martin Corrick) is nearing completion and I'd like advice on paint. I had planned to use Dulux Weathershield on the outside of the hull, and have painted it with Weathershield undercoat (on top of two coats of Blakes (now Hempel) epoxy primer and the original epoxy coat on the ply. My intention in choosing Dulux was to avoid the price hike on anything 'marine' but am now wondering if Weathershield is in fact good enough.
I'd appreciate members' thoughts.  Many thanks. By the way I hope i have got the posting protocols right -apologies if not.
Bill Jones.
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Hi Bill.

I've used Dulux Weathershield on several boats. Works fine. They were all built of reputable marine ply, some sheathed in epoxy but others the Dulux primer went straight onto bare wood.

Compared with a yacht enamel the Dulux paint is softer. Means you can scrape it more easily when beaching. Having said that, I've used yacht enamel on boats and it still scrapes. Not a disaster for you though. The epoxy primer will still be there with the epoxy under that so the wood will be well protected. Haven't tried two pot paint yet. Suspect that will be the only way to get a tougher finish but expensive and a pain to apply.

So far Dulux with a touch up of primer and a fresh topcoat each year works fine. Dries much quicker than yacht paint and much cheaper.

Tim.

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Subject: Advice on paint

The first (of two) Woods Linnets (being built by myself and Martin Corrick) is nearing completion and I'd like advice on paint. I had planned to use Dulux Weathershield. Am now wondering if Weathershield is in fact good enough. 
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Bill,

Dulux Weathershield works well, easy peasy to apply.

Two pack paints have a heavy solvent, can melt foam rollers after 30 mins, difficult to mix, best applied with a roller, cannot be washed out of clothes, won't wash off your hands until new skin grows.
However they are far tougher than conventional paints and are used in harsh environments like oil rigs.

I used Jotun 2-pack paints on MilliBee 5 years ago and her hull paint is in good condition...apart from a few close encouters that have left scratches.

But you can only put 2-pack on a 2-pack undercoat, so go for Dulux as you intended.

-Paul
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Bill, The paint that I've used on the three boats that I have built, one being over 18 years old, and has had only one repaint, is Rylards.
This is a paint system, and varnish, that was developed for narrow boats, and canal cruisers, and is easy to apply, and is about the same price as house hold paint.
You won't find this on the coast, but its usually available at inland chandlers.
Its distributed by,
 Mainline
2 Sefton road
Litherland
Liverpool
L21 7PG
0151 920 6451
Barry

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Bill,

Dulux Weathershield works well, easy peasy to apply.

Two pack paints have a heavy solvent, can melt foam rollers after 30 mins, difficult to mix, best applied with a roller, cannot be washed out of clothes, won't wash off your hands until new skin grows.
However they are far tougher than conventional paints and are used in harsh environments like oil rigs.

I used Jotun 2-pack paints on MilliBee 5 years ago and her hull paint is in good condition...apart from a few close encouters that have left scratches.

But you can only put 2-pack on a 2-pack undercoat, so go for Dulux as you intended.

-Paul


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Thanks all for the advice. I shall use the Weathershield as I have put the undercoat on, but will bear in mind Rylards - thanks for that and will look out as I am in the Midlands and surrounded by canals. Next time I'm at Sawley for example I'll check.
 
I hope the Linnet will be ready for joining an outing before long - reading about the Raid and Barton Turf has been an inspiration. Then there's Linnet no 2 to build of course...
 
Best wishes to all
 
Bill
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 18/06/2011 09:07:21 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:
Bill, The paint that I've used on the three boats that I have built, one being over 18 years old, and has had only one repaint, is Rylards.
This is a paint system, and varnish, that was developed for narrow boats, and canal cruisers, and is easy to apply, and is about the same price as house hold paint.
You won't find this on the coast, but its usually available at inland chandlers.
Its distributed by,
 Mainline
2 Sefton road
Litherland
Liverpool
L21 7PG
0151 920 6451
Barry

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Bill,

Dulux Weathershield works well, easy peasy to apply.

Two pack paints have a heavy solvent, can melt foam rollers after 30 mins, difficult to mix, best applied with a roller, cannot be washed out of clothes, won't wash off your hands until new skin grows.
However they are far tougher than conventional paints and are used in harsh environments like oil rigs.

I used Jotun 2-pack paints on MilliBee 5 years ago and her hull paint is in good condition...apart from a few close encouters that have left scratches.

But you can only put 2-pack on a 2-pack undercoat, so go for Dulux as you intended.

-Paul


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Many thanks to all who replied to my query on paint. I shall use Dulux Weathershield on the outside of the hull. The inside will be cream with non-slip deck paint on the bottom boards.
I have found a little mast which will do  - aluminium would be better but it will do for now.
I hope it won't be long before the Linnet will be ready and can be subjected to hbbr scrutiny where 'not bad for a first build' will be the best I will hope for. Or, in a phrase inherited by my father from my grandfather (wood and stone carver): 'I've seen worse.'
 
Bill Jones
 
 
 
In a message dated 17/06/2011 19:58:52 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:
Bill,

Dulux Weathershield works well, easy peasy to apply.

Two pack paints have a heavy solvent, can melt foam rollers after 30 mins, difficult to mix, best applied with a roller, cannot be washed out of clothes, won't wash off your hands until new skin grows.
However they are far tougher than conventional paints and are used in harsh environments like oil rigs.

I used Jotun 2-pack paints on MilliBee 5 years ago and her hull paint is in good condition...apart from a few close encouters that have left scratches.

But you can only put 2-pack on a 2-pack undercoat, so go for Dulux as you intended.

-Paul


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Ah Bill,
Your Grandfather wasn't Scottish by any chance? That just the sort of faint praise I was damned by as a wee lad.
I'm sure your boat will be just grand. Look forward to seeing it.
Graham
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Many thanks Graham
 
Not Scottish - worse than that - Welsh!
(Interestingly he carved the war memorial for the Anglesea village with the (in)famous long name - Llanfair PG).
But yes I look forward to the boat joining the hbbr Linnet flotilla.
 
Best wishes
Bill
 
 
 
In a message dated 26/06/2011 21:10:12 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:
Ah Bill,
Your Grandfather wasn't Scottish by any chance? That just the sort of faint praise I was damned by as a wee lad.
I'm sure your boat will be just grand. Look forward to seeing it.
Graham
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