It's got 2 Bee

[Chris Waite]

I have "long tail" propulsion -

 

It gives three knots all day, regardless of the cloud cover, provides arm-chair exercise with a good view forward.  It also doesn't suffer from mixing electrons with water.

OK, so I don't have arms on the chair, but I could if I wanted.

Since refined, it is a simple set up

And actually only cost

A few quid

CW

(Pictures by Graham Neil - with thanks)

[Alan]

CW, I can't argue against any of that - water has broken my electrons, and I have failed to look after them. I have spent a lot of money and time with more to come. As well as solar, another future project will be an "engineered" version of your ped-yuloh. Rowing works very well on my boat but I can't see where I'm going.

[Jeremy]

My problem with rowing is that my neck now refuses to twist around enough for me to be able to see where I'm supposed to be going.  Last time I took Aero out for a row I was in agony for days afterwards, which is why I've given up the idea of rowing now.

I must admit I like the inherent simplicity and cost-effectiveness of CW's system, and have thought a bit about trying to make a propeller drive that works with the same sort of pedal motion.  A few have tried this, and I always thought that this system had the potential to be developed into a more practical and robust solution: https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/pedal-powered-boats.23345/page-5#post219124

[Paul H (admin)]

My goal is too show the internal combustion engine is obsolete on our waterways.

99.9% of people in a 4 bed river cruiser won't be interested in rowing, peddling or paddling nor have the stamina.

But they would lap up an electric drive; especially when noisy, smokey engines become heavily taxed.

Bring on the slippery electrics.

Paul

[Port-Na-Storm]

I'm thinking about when I'm too old and knackered to paddle or row. I reckon you chaps will have all the snags sorted out by then.

[Timmo]

Likewise!

Tim

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I'm thinking about when I'm too old and knackered to paddle or row. I reckon you chaps will have all the snags sorted out by then.

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[Chris Waite]

Ah, Alan and you Jeremy....

That was the reason I took to the yuloh quest in the first place; I love rowing - something you can really get your back into.  But for those of us old farts with knackered knecks, up a lazy river is a knightmare.  I can elucidate this using the Thames as an example.  There had to be an answer to being able to look ahea

d, without resorting to extracorporeal energetic extravagances and the Pedyuloh is my best come-uppance so far.

Feel free to improve upon it

But expense will not

Be indulged

CW

[David Bewick]

I seem to remember a boat on the 2012 Thames Raid with a rather natty rear view mirror arrangement for rowing.  As I recall, it worked fairly well until the unfortunate owner dropped in in the oggin at the last overnight stop accompanied by considerable (and understandable) profanity. 😊

[simplesimon]

See also https://smallboatsmonthly.com/article/fte-august/ (NB you may have to register to see it)

Simon

[simplesimon]

Paul (admin) wrote

My goal is too show the internal combustion engine is obsolete on our waterways

IIRC about 35 years ago Anglo-Welsh canal cruisers had a fleet of electric 40-50ft narrow boats which on the occasion I met one seemed very effective.

I don't know what happenned to them. I suspect charging was a problem.

Simon

[Chris Waite]

The fore-view mirror was OK

As a rowing aid to avoiding banks and trees and stuff, but it still took a lot of concentration.  Sufficient in fact that it took one's mind off the beauty of the surroundings.

There is nothing — absolutely nothing — half so much worth doing

As simply seeing where

You're going

CW

[Jeremy]

simplesimon wrote

Paul (admin) wrote

My goal is too show the internal combustion engine is obsolete on our waterways

IIRC about 35 years ago Anglo-Welsh canal cruisers had a fleet of electric 40-50ft narrow boats which on the occasion I met one seemed very effective.

I don't know what happenned to them. I suspect charging was a problem.

Simon

Around 17 or 18 years ago, we hired a Broads sailing cruiser with an inboard electric auxiliary.  It worked extremely well, as the wind, being fickle as usual, chose to be against us all the way from Horning to past the bridge at Potter Heigham.  IIRC, our first overnight charge was up at the top of Hickling, where there were a couple of public charge points.  

I can't remember where other charge points were, but do recall that there were enough around that I never felt that we would run the batteries down during our holiday.  We did sail a fair bit, including an impromptu race around Horsey Mere in a bit of a blow, but having instant power available was very reassuring.  The latter got me out of a spot of trouble when tacking back up the Bure on the way home.  The two of us had got into the hypnotic rhythm of tacking up the river, when a couple of kids jumped into the water from the Northern bank, just about where I was planning to turn.  Being able to almost stop the boat in her own length, just by pulling the lever aft whilst turning head to wind, was remarkably useful, and not something I'd thought of until the need arose.

[Paul H (admin)]

Port-Na-Storm wrote

I'm thinking about when I'm too old and knackered to paddle or row.

Graham,

There will be 3 buttons:

FORWARD,  to maintain a steady 3kts when rowing/paddling/pedalling gets a bit tiring.

WHERE AM I, exact location plus auto-route back to the trailer/anchorage/campsite.

WHO AM I, for those difficult days. Who the hell you are, boat name, car reg, where you parked it and the trailer.

Paul

[Chris Adeney]

How is the Bee build going? I am just back from a fantastic late Autumn row up the Avon from Tewkesbury to the pub at Tyning. Stopped there for a pint of Wadworths and back down again. It would to do the trip with both boats when yours is finished. Chris A.

[Paul H (admin)]

Chris,

It's on hold at the minute because 1) epoxy does not like frosts 2) at DCA Cobnor I decided to focus on MilliBee.

That project soon spiralled into a new sail, new mast, furling for the Wayfarer genoa and moving the genoa tracks!

However the pub at Tyning is do-able.

Cheers
Paul