Source of inspiration?

[Timmo]

While somewhere warmer than the UK last week I came across this guy:



Now he isn't rowing in this shot, but the craft is clearly rigged to row.

Does anyone see any similarities with:





Can't find a photo of Simba later on with the raised rowlocks.

Question is which inspired which?

Tim.

[Jeremy]

Talking of inspiration, I'm currently watching a programme on the Scottish Coastal Rowing Project, following the Stornway group in their endeavours to raise money and build a St Ayles Skiff.

Another feather in the cap for the founder of our little disorganisation.

(BBC Alba, now, for those who can view it)

PS: Yes, it is in the gaelic, but even some of the non-gaelic speakers here should be able to follow it.

[Forthsailoar]

If you look hard, and I remember right, you should see my Walkabout in the background of the launch of a skiff at Portobello. 

Osbert

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On 7 May 2012, at 21:10, "Jeremy [via UK HBBR Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Talking of inspiration, I'm currently watching a programme on the Scottish Coastal Rowing Project, following the Stornway group in their endeavours to raise money and build a St Ayles Skiff.

Another feather in the cap for the founder of our little disorganisation.

(BBC Alba, now, for those who can view it)

PS: Yes, it is in the gaelic, but even some of the non-gaelic speakers here should be able to follow it.

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[Jeremy]

Was that you videoing them from your boat, Osbert?

[Forthsailoar]

Possibly, didn't watch it last night and cant remember. 16' dinghy, two masts, sails furled, cream hull, dark green top strake.

Osbert

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On 7 May 2012, at 21:29, "Jeremy [via UK HBBR Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Was that you videoing them from your boat, Osbert?

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[Jeremy]

Yes, I'm pretty sure that it was you, right behind the boat as it launched, just off the beach.

Tt was a pretty good programme, with lot's of boat building shots and seemed to cover half a dozen or so of the St Ayres skiff builds.  

Nice looking boats, too, with an impressive turn of speed and good acceleration.  I can see why coastal rowing has really taken off, as it looks like great fun.  The lightness of the boats has to be a big plus, too, making them pretty easy to launch and recover.

Sorry if this has hijacked this thread, but it seems to fit the description of "inspiration" !

[BrianP]

Anybody has any idea why the St Ayles Skiff has not caught on in "England" yet? Is it too Scottish? Is rowing too elitist in the UK? The class seems to be catching on everywhere else.

Brian

[Jeremy]

No real idea, Brian.  There's a very strong coastal rowing tradition in the South West, and has been ever since Ralph Bird resurrected the Cornish Pilot Gigs around 35 years ago (I believe there are over 100 regularly racing at the moment).  AFAIK gigs are mainly raced around the Cornwall/Isles of Scilly/Devon area and haven't really spread much further than that (with the exception of a few in foreign waters).

The St Ayles Skiff looks to be a better boat in many ways than a Pilot Gig, too, much cheaper and easier to build, lighter and can be rowed with a smaller crew.

There are local traditions in many coastal fishing communities of racing working or traditional rowing boats in the summer, even if only in fun events at local regattas.  It seems only a small step to turn that into a proper coastal rowing movement as Alec seems to have done in Scottish waters.

[Forthsailoar]

There's one St Ayles Skiff in NE England - Gosforth I think, and I'm sure I remember talk of other potential builds.

http://www.rowgosforth.org.uk/

Osbert

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On 8 May 2012, at 09:42, "Jeremy [via UK HBBR Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

No real idea, Brian.  There's a very strong coastal rowing tradition in the South West, and has been ever since Ralph Bird resurrected the Cornish Pilot Gigs around 35 years ago (I believe there are over 100 regularly racing at the moment).  AFAIK gigs are mainly raced around the Cornwall/Isles of Scilly/Devon area and haven't really spread much further than that (with the exception of a few in foreign waters).

The St Ayles Skiff looks to be a better boat in many ways than a Pilot Gig, too, much cheaper and easier to build, lighter and can be rowed with a smaller crew.

There are local traditions in many coastal fishing communities of racing working or traditional rowing boats in the summer, even if only in fun events at local regattas.  It seems only a small step to turn that into a proper coastal rowing movement as Alec seems to have done in Scottish waters.

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[Chris Partridge]

Hi Tim - a lovely pic. I posted about a bundle boat from Oman the other day and this looks a bit similar. Could you send me some more pics for the blog?
The comparison is completely invalid, of course. His boat is much bigger than Simbo...
Which reminds me - Simbo was made from one side of the packing that the Bee kit came in. I am proud to announce that the other side has now been used to create a floorboard for the Bee, so the whole kit will be used (like a pig, nothing left over).
Chris

[Jeremy]

Chris Partridge wrote

 (like a pig, nothing left over).

Except the squeak.........

[Matt Cunningham]

There is a new one being built in Byker (Newcastle upon Tyne) in an old church, a spin off from the Gosforth boat,

 

Matthew

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There's one St Ayles Skiff in NE England - Gosforth I think, and I'm sure I remember talk of other potential builds.

http://www.rowgosforth.org.uk/

Osbert

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On 8 May 2012, at 09:42, "Jeremy [via UK HBBR Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

No real idea, Brian.  There's a very strong coastal rowing tradition in the South West, and has been ever since Ralph Bird resurrected the Cornish Pilot Gigs around 35 years ago (I believe there are over 100 regularly racing at the moment).  AFAIK gigs are mainly raced around the Cornwall/Isles of Scilly/Devon area and haven't really spread much further than that (with the exception of a few in foreign waters).

The St Ayles Skiff looks to be a better boat in many ways than a Pilot Gig, too, much cheaper and easier to build, lighter and can be rowed with a smaller crew.

There are local traditions in many coastal fishing communities of racing working or traditional rowing boats in the summer, even if only in fun events at local regattas.  It seems only a small step to turn that into a proper coastal rowing movement as Alec seems to have done in Scottish waters.

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[BrianP]

Perhaps the Skiffs will creep down the coastline, like invading Scots used to do.

Must be a thin ply floor Chris - take care.

Brian