On a shoestring in a shoebox.

[Nesting Ray.]

Hi all. Seems quiet on here lately, good opportunity to bore you all with some photos of my boat building attempts.



Cheapo plyo cut to plan.




Bulkheads and transom made up.




Scarfing sides.




Glueing scarf joints,





Glassing sides and bottoms together.

[Nesting Ray.]

Sorry guys l do struggle with computers, here's a couple more shots of the build up to pres.









That's it up to now, gunwales, tomorrow, fingers crossed .

[Port-Na-Storm]

Excellent ray, It all seems to be progressing well.

I particularly like your big lead weight with the handle.

[Nesting Ray.]

Hello again. Gunwales fixed, boat definitely more rigid now and shaping up.





Handy tip here, when fitting breast hooks and quarter knees save the offcuts for cramping, it saves damaging the face and makes for easier fixing.

[Paul H (admin)]

Great progress Ray,

That's a brilliant tip about the quarter knees. I usually resort to using temporary screws to hold things together until the epoxy dries, then I fill the hole ready for painting. But for a "bright" finish, varnish or the highly recommended oil, your tip will save the day.

-Paul

[GregHBBR]

Minor aside...

Why has this topic/thread suddenly changed subject ine to something
seemingly with no relevance.

It makes it very difficult for those trying to follow things via
email.

Please make sure any posts whether by email on on the forum have an
appropriate subject line before hitting the "Send/Post" button.

Greg Chapman
http://www.gregafloat.plus.com
A Boating Biography
http://www.seahawk17.plus.com
Celebrating the SeaHawk!

[Nesting Ray.]

Oooooops sorry, don't know how that happened, my fault, will try to sort it next installment.

[Chris Waite]

'S alright Ray

Greg is one of our cyberlords.  The way to maintain a story/subject is to keep going back to the last message uploaded by yourself, or anyone else and pressing 'Reply' - sort of top right.  As you've found when you introduced yourself, that comes up with a standard box for you to tap away into; then you can 'review' if you want and finally 'post'.  

If you can't find your last 'subject' and I notice a couple of yours have dropped off the end of 'General Discussion'*, then go to the bottom of that *heading where it says "View more" and that opens up the preceding page of subjects where your 'Woodflour' and 'wire for to stitch with' are snoozing peacefully.  And that's just the previous page - we've managed to 'generally discuss' our way through over six of them since moving to this site.

It saves having to chase all over the place with new headings.  In fact if we ask the 'Great White Administrator', Paul Hadley very nicely (Paulie?), he can probably gather all your uploads and condense them into one flowing saga, entitled something really terrible like 'Nest is Best'.  So you'll end up with something akin to mine on 'Polly Wee', where I've been droning on, and on, and on....

For a large part of eternity

Chris

[Paul H (admin)]

I've been planning to reorganise these posts, but illness is stopping me at the moment.
Paul

[GregHBBR]

Hi Chris,

Chris Waite wrote

'S alright Ray

Yes! Apologies to Ray if my comment seemed a little terse. It was because I couldn't work out how the "How to post..." subject line that originally belonged, correctly, in the "Forum Ideas/Issues" area came to appear attached to this "On a shoestring in a shoebox" topic, so I couldn't offer any recommendations on how to avoid it in future.

(My best guess now is that Ray picked a random old post of his to reply to as a way of generating a new post, then used the "Move post" facility to put it in the right place, but failed to change the subject line - but I wasn't confident enough to suggest that at the time.)

The way to maintain a story/subject is to keep going back to the last message uploaded by yourself, or anyone else and pressing 'Reply' - sort of top right.

I strongly challenge the advice that suggests that one randomly picks any message in a topic and click its "Reply" link. (See below for more information) "Reply" is for just that - a reply to a specific post. Any other action messes up the threading built into Nabble and any decent email program.

You should always use "New Topic" in the appropriate area and pick an appropriate subject if you really begin to drift away from the subject given. (Indeed, I shall soon either move this post to the "Forum Issues" area or copy most of its content to a new post so it is easier for folk to find it later and it forms a better general purpose FAQ, that will be useful for newcomers.)

As you've found when you introduced yourself, that comes up with a standard box for you to tap away into; then you can 'review' if you want and finally 'post'.

Not forgetting to change the subject line to reflect to contents of your post if there is drift in the topic.

If you can't find your last 'subject' and I notice a couple of yours have dropped off the end of 'General Discussion'*, then go to the bottom of that *heading where it says "View more"

There's lots more options that...

• To get to your own posts, login in and click on your Username, then "My posts". They'll all be listed, most recent first, indicating the area in which they were posted.

• To get to all topics posted in the "General Discussion" area, just click on that heading. (You don't have to use the "View more" link).

When viewing a topic:
# To see a brief summary of the text of all posts in date order, click the "List" link. It saves you having to scroll through a long page!
# To see a structured list indicating who replied to what, click the "Threaded" link
NOTES: In List and Threaded views, you can click on the contributor's name and open a view of the full content of that message.
"Threaded" view is very helpful feature when trying to skip messages in topics that have split into unrelated strands which may have no interest to you (such as this one), and is why it is so important only to click reply on the appropriate message!

• To get to the most recent posts regardless of area, click on "Topics view" at the top menu under the forum header. (To return use the "Main page" link)

• To follow the wisdom of your favourite contributor, click on the avatar of any of their posts.
(Note how you can filter the list there to show all their posts, or just the topics they started.)

And if you can't find the post you want, as a last resort, there's always the "Search" facility - that white panel within the forum header area. Just type a few appropriate terms.

[Chris Waite]

That Gregory, is why you are a cyber-lord

While the likes of myself and I suspect Ray, both recently retired, are simple pre-electrolytes.  I quote Einstein for the umpteenth time:

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction"

You wouldn't like me to consider you a fool

Would you?

Chris

[GregHBBR]

Ah Chris,

If only life were that simple!

I too have my bus pass, but have the advantages of taking an interest in computers as a hobby from the early days and gaining a "Data Processing" qualification as part of an HNC in Business Studies in the late 1970s. (Our tutor told us we were the first cohort that wouldn't be faced with a piece of punched paper tape and told to read the ASCII code by just looking at the holes in it.) I got access to my first computer in 1984 (paid for by my wife's employer) and set about writing programs for them.

In those days, there was only one way to do something and the only people for whom the task seemed intuitive was the guy that wrote the program.

The trouble with having more powerful computers is that it is now possible to provide programs that can be made intuitive for everyone. Unfortunately, in reality, the term "everyone" mean "those who has been familiar with computers for the past 30 years", because for those who've kept computers at arms length, it has meant that there's now such a plethora of approaches to any task that it is indeed utterly and completely confusing for the novice.

That last answer of mine was meant to convey how flexible the system is and how it can always do exactly what you'd like it to. But I fully understand that if you haven't got your head round many of the things that old hands take for granted, it will seem like nothing but complexity.

Me? The only reason I stay here is that I'm in awe of those who can wield saws, hammers, sanders and the rest, and make something beautiful. I just hope that by some miracle such skills will by some osmotic process be absorbed just by reading all your words of wisdom. In return I hope some of my knowledge will be helpful and rub off on others.

[Nesting Ray.]

Hello its me again, as l said on my first post that l will bore you all with some photos, well here are a few more. Now l know that Gregg tried his best to outbore me but I'm not so easily put off so here's an update of the build. After all it is a boat builders forum is it not?



Epoxy station..



All glassed up and nowhere to go.

[Nesting Ray.]

Sorry photos coming in wrong order.



Oooops did l mean to do that..



Its nice when a plan comes together, super space saver, all l got to do now is find a way to put it back together.

[Port-Na-Storm]

Hi Ray,
I have given in and changed the header back to its original title, only because I can't stand it when Boat Building Forums change into Forums about posting on Forums.

Excellent progress on the boat, did no-one explain its supposed to take years?
I presume there is a removable thwart which will sit on top of the joining bulkheads?
Could it have some kind of slotted timber arrangement which when slid on would keep it all together?

Chris Waite has an ingenious curving tongue and groove method of joining the two halves of Octavia together. He's only on-line intermittently right now but maybe he'll enlighten us when ever he touches down on planet earth.  
 

[Nesting Ray.]

Hi. Graham.
  Sorry l will slow down now that l can store it away in a corner, the washer and tumble drier are in the corner behind the Louvre doors, which made it tricky to get to, so l had to take a crash course in laundry operations which was one of the conditions of my being allowed to take over the room. Normal service has now been resumed. Yes your right about the removable thwart, there will also be 2 top bolts and 2 bottom hook brackets to hold it all together reasonably quickly. Also thanks for putting the subject title thingy back on track. Ray.

Hello Ray

I'm following your build with great interest. Are you taking hi-res pictures of your progress?

If so, I would be interested in publishing an article on the project in Water Craft.

Pete

[Nesting Ray.]

Hello Pete. Thanks for your interest, l don't think the pictures are as high resolution as you need, the camera is a Kodak 6 megapixel compact that my son gave me. I suppose l could borrow his super duper SLR for future snaps, they could be more suitable for your needs. Cheers. Ray.

[Nesting Ray.]

Just finished fitting the aft buoyancy chambers and small removable thwart.

[Nesting Ray.]

Also fixed a couple of 9mm strips to help strengthen the floor where l got l got a little carried away sanding the scarf joints, these will also give a foothold when wet and slippery. Just run out of epoxy, have used 3.5kg up to now. Will order some from UK epoxy which l must recommend, it goes off a treat even in the cold and is more or less odour free.