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inwe inwe
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John
 a problem with Phosphor bronze and zinc. Its hot sprayed. Calluna's centre plate has a bronze bush and it's OK. Come to think of it Calluna's rudder has a bush in as well but that's only wood. Anyway if it goes put a new one in.

Richard
inwe inwe
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The last post cut off the front of the message for some reason! Missing is " It's not a problem" . Anyway I've got about 6 feet of p. bronze.

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inwe inwe
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I have just found some photos of progress, no I haven't visited the boats recently, Just to show roughly the stage I've got to. Having got paint all over her I've taken the covers off but the light is still c--p. I've still got to put another coat of paint on the deck, preferably when it's warm so that it runs well. Two pictures of the boat.






A nice burgundy above cream and a cream deck.
I've also been doing jobs in my home workshop. One of the problems I had was sourcing the handles of the oars. I suddenly came across an old spinnaker pole from the dragon. It was just long enough to cut in two, one for each oar. Although of a different timber they solved the problem. So I now have two paddles and two handles.






Sorry the photo was supposed to be vertical. any way you get the idea.
Only the varnish is solid at the bottom of the tin. Thank god You can still buy online. I hope!

My next job will be fabricating the top of the rudder stock. Luckily I had recovered an old bronze door kick plate so will proceed to cut and make a nice curved enclosure in which to slide the tiller.


Richard
Chris Waite Chris Waite
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You do make the most beautiful boats Richard

The only other comment; I was nodding in agreement regarding the bronze door plate.  Sadly I am all through mine, bar the odd small square in my metal-bits-box; I don't suppose I shall ever find anything of the like again.

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inwe inwe
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Chris is this a request?

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Chris Waite Chris Waite
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No - no request, simply an observation

Talk of hoarding; my garage gets slowly more replete with ever smaller offcuts

Surely I can't be the only one to take lovely old stuff out

Just so that I can fondle it for a bit?

Trousys excluded

CW

inwe inwe
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I know how you feel. I have loads of odd pieces of wood and metal stashed away. Equipment, and various bits of machinery. I give away where possible and economic. e.g. I'll give my Harrison lathe away for £2000 !
On another note the vast majority of timber used in the Lillie was sourced from the woodpile. And so it goes on.

Stay safe and keep well CW.

Richard
Timmo Timmo
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And I've just piled up the patterns, station moulds, scale models and multitude other memories of several boatbuilds together with piles of softwood offcuts (kept for 10 years and more in some cases on the grounds they might be useful one day) in a big heap ready for the incinerator at the weekend. 

They were going mouldy out in the car port anyway. So much spare space suddenly. Even bigger pile ready for the tip when it reopens.

But hardwood pieces I'm keeping... I spent years being jealous of old timers saying "I had a nice offcut of oak/mahogany/beech/elm/etc. lying around so I quickly turned it into a cleat/block/bowl/whatever." Now I'm the old fart with a collection of hardwood offcuts and I'm not burning them. All I lack is the imagination and skill to turn them into useful things! 

Still not built up that comprehensive collection of bits of metal yet, but the work has started.

On 26 Mar 2020, at 09:42, inwe [via UK HBBR Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

I know how you feel. I have loads of odd pieces of wood and metal stashed away. Equipment, and various bits of machinery. I give away where possible and economic. e.g. I'll give my Harrison lathe away for £2000 !
On another note the vast majority of timber used in the Lillie was sourced from the woodpile. And so it goes on.

Stay safe and keep well CW.

Richard


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Paul, I noticed a post on the DCA forum from a guy wanting Heron plans. Maybe he's on the wrong website?

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I saw that too.

He needs a complete sailing rig, rudder, centre board, spars etc.

Now who do we know.................?


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Well the fairies are delivering, just received some varnish and brushes from Bayside Marine , delivery slot just pm.

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Tim.
In answer to your stack of wooden bits and pieces plus your possible boredom I remember a book published in 1983  " Wonderful Wooden Toys by Richard E Blizzard " . Perhaps this would solve the wood pile situation.

Richard
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The oars are now finished and I have taken the pictures before various bits of trim have been added, but you should get some idea. You should have guessed earlier that I too was getting fed up of running into banks, logs, other boats, and having to rely on the good favours of others to inform me where I was going. Hence forward facing rowing system. And before certain people decide on all their objections,  I really couldn't give a stuff.
The system is American, st/st, and my audiologist brought them over at the end of her holiday. I am very grateful. The "rowlock" is permanently bolted to the boat and the oar with mechanism is demountable.




The following photos , apart that I was unable to get a full width photo in the barn, shows various views .










I have brought the rudder assembly home to continue in my garden workshop but keep out of my wifes' way.

keep safe
Richard






Alan Alan
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Interesting to see your forward facing rowing system Richard. I've started making a forward facing pedal/paddle system that I'm currently calling a Contrap-Yuloh, inspired by the Peduloh. The hardest part was to make a choice between all the different ways of propelling a boat with feet, including propellers (and surface piercing), dual fins, horizontal and vertical pivot for the fins and many other variables. It's my personal challenge to design and make the whole thing myself but your system would have the advantage for me that an electric outboard could be installed permanently. My device will clamp to the transom with an outboard clamp/tilt assembly.
inwe inwe
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I thought that this picture might make things a little clearer.


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inwe inwe
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Hi Alan, good luck with your system, the 'lillie' being a double ender immediately creates the problem of having no transom so certain solutions are just not possible. Will be interested in your ideas.

Just started to plan the tiller, another wishbone like Calluna's but very much smaller which in itself creates problems. I think I shall have to wet the laminates to take the tight bend. We shall see. I am hoping that I have enough Khaya to do it but if not.....?

Richard
inwe inwe
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So just made the former but not enough veneer for two sides, dam , have to order some more.
Chris Waite Chris Waite
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Alan

I'd love to see what you've come up with for the yuloh

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I really want to try these out. Apparently the system was originally invented in the 19th century and made in bronze, and the current makers not only substituted stainless, which must be a lot stronger, they also used CAD to optimise the design so it will be interesting to see how well they work.
inwe inwe
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Just about finished the rudder as per photos.






All I have to do now is to line it up on the hull and screw on pintles !

As for the tiller - - having brought the steam box home I found that I needed a new element and lead so that is on the way as is some veneer. The couple of sheets of veneer I had are too short so the new stock is 3.5M. The former is ready , famous last words, so stand by!

Richard
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