SF Lillie

[inwe]

Well it all starts with the visit by Alec Jordan and his trailer loaded with plywood. I am no different. The new build is a Selway-Fisher Lillie. I fell in love with this boat at the Beale Park (RIP) boat show and vowed that this would be my next build. So as with so many of us Alec cuts out a good few months of labour . A 15ft sailing canoe Yawl. I also vowed that no longer would I row into the banks of rivers etc. etc.



Ready to label and cut out. The SF plans were for stitch and glue, as an awkward bu...r I prefer clinker so Alec reworked the plans for clinker-ply and hey presto.



                                   MDF moulds ready for the strongback. I hadn't used a box strongback before always used a frame.

Having constructed the box strongback, what a job, fully 19ft long and costing me more MDF, mounting the 9 building frames onto the strongback making very sure that they were square and spaced correctly, I started by mounting the stem and sternpost , then the keelson. Once this lot was glued and planed to size The planks were cut, matched and the long task of scarfing and gluing the planks began. The planks were 5mm thick to keep the weight down. It worked because when the hull was glued up I could turn it over on my own.
With the planks glued up and planed to shape  -  fiting. I still had a few clamps left over from Calluna but  -  quite a few had gone. Oh well make some more. Started to put the planks on the frames as well as other details on my other hobby!! Oh where does the time go?



Onward a few planks.













More of this later when I can stand more pressure of this programme insisting that I taken photos the wrong way around.

Richard

[inwe]

I have given the bottom a coat of Jotun primer and an undercoat glued a pair of bilge runners on. Very easy turns over a treat . I also added some strengthening strips to the keel box. The exposed part of the box was only meant to be 9mm either side of the keel. Can you imagine that coming onto the  beech. So I added another 9mm either side . This will also allow me to affix brass keel band either side of the box. I have acquired some 1/2 inch square st/st to fix to the bilge runners, drilled them for screws , ground the ends down , and slightly bent them to fit the bilge runners.
 I decided that I was getting fed up with her bottom !!! and turned her over. Next came the carlins  and deck beams. It is starting to look a bit more like a boat.










I have to admit its starting to get a bit cold so I've had to invest in another diesel heater as after a number of years my original one has packed up and so offered to the scrap heap. the bow and stern tanks are buoyancy chambers with access hatches for storage. Big black dot you see in the bulkhead.

Also pictured is the rowing thwart, this will be one of the few bits varnished. Teak !

More later
Richard

[Chris Waite]

Very beautiful, Richard!

CW

[inwe]

After that little venture into painting the bow and stern tanks/lockers I got carried away , painted Calluna's lockers and started on the inside of this one. It might have been the paint fumes. Then I ran out of paint. Both the primer and locker paint . Just arrived today. Marked out the mast holes and centres of mast steps. Then forgot the hole cutters. It's called age I think! Just started painting carlins and deck beams and carried on to the inside of the hull. The deck will be the last to go on as this allows clear access to the whole of the interior without having to get in the hull. Two holes cut for access hatches. I got out Calluna's broken mast marked it out so I can now start to cut it down to size. Quite a bit shorter and thinner as well. Will start producing shavings next.
It has been getting colder in the barn and the old diesel heater packed up BER so ordered another should arrive in the next few days. I can buy red diesel from the farm.
I had the rowlocks delivered by my hearing aid person in the summer, nice bright st/st . The airline queried them but allowed them on the flight when convinced they were not a weapon of mass distruction.

I suppose that little phrase will get flagged up by phrase searches. More later.

Richard

[Paul H (admin)]

Richard,

I concur with Chris, the joint work looks excellent. The structure is similar to Paul Fisher's Heron redesign scaled up, with a pointy rear.

If you are getting cold, close the sliding door in the first picture

regards
Paul

[inwe]

I'm in the process of painting like Graham. Nice coat of gloss and that night the temperature dropped and produced a lot of condensation dripping off the roof ! So let it harden for a couple of days and start sanding. All went well and more painting and sanding. Looks good . Cream. Went over today through the floods, I thought that all would be okay dammit the farm is not low lying but the ground water is rising. The floor was getting quite wet with puddles. Ironically water - boat should be ok only its the wrong way up!! Thank you Graham ordered the keel band and gudgeons.
I must make two carpet lined supports for turning over. Then I will carry on with the inside.

Richard

[inwe]

Given the outside two gloss coats and finally fitted keel bands and bilge keel bands. Looks reasonable but will need another gloss coat when I've done a lot more to the inside. So I've turned her over again to do more to the inside. Decided to change the colour on the inside. Blue did not look good.





I have also continued with the mast planning down Calluna's old broken one. Lots of shavings there. Just got to finish sanding it.
So much work to do, also making a trailer for the engine - bought a garden one and adapting for sitting on and being towed. All takes time.

Richard

[Port-Na-Storm]

Looking Good there Richard,
I reckon you'll be launched long before me.

Happy New Year Everyone.

[inwe]

And a happy new year to you Graham. On that remark of yours, I doubt it. Plenty more work to do. I just glued  some teak together today for the rear seat. Started to shape the deck sheets!!!! You remember those Graham. Unfortunately they don't fit. I've had to remodel the sheets and am going to have to use several pieces to complete the decking. Have you decided on material for the mast? I am going to have to buy some for the mizzen. If you are still contemplating getting one made you could do a lot worse than Collars and the price is not that bad.

Richard

[Timmo]

Ooooh! Shiny!

Really moving along there. Good work.

I've been distracted by the construction of a workshop inside one of our outbuildings in France (the old piggery) where I can then strip and rebuild the oldest motorbike. Idea is it will keep auto parts separate from sawdust and be small enough to heat.

Will get back to finishing spars in a few days. 

Tim.

On 1 Jan 2020, at 21:36, inwe [via UK HBBR Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Given the outside two gloss coats and finally fitted keel bands and bilge keel bands. Looks reasonable but will need another gloss coat when I've done a lot more to the inside. So I've turned her over again to do more to the inside. Decided to change the colour on the inside. Blue did not look good.





I have also continued with the mast planning down Calluna's old broken one. Lots of shavings there. Just got to finish sanding it.
So much work to do, also making a trailer for the engine - bought a garden one and adapting for sitting on and being towed. All takes time.

Richard

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[inwe]

Yes I know the feeling of a roof over your head and rain coming in!!! That is the tarp over the boat. It turns out that a barn is not as waterproof as one is led to suppose.

R

[David Bewick]

I know the feeling - my barn is pretty good.  It only leaks when it rains!

[inwe]

Here are some pictures of the thwarts. I popped in this morning and finished off the stern thwart.
I am not too sure how comfortable it will be but if is not can always change or adapt it.





Teak again. All from my earlier stock - recycled of course.

Richard

[Chris Waite]

Richard here are a couple of points I learned the "hard" way -
 
1. A wide thwart is much more user friendly than a narrow one; Polly Wee's is 16 inches across -



2.  The handle end of a centreboard is seriously uncomfortable to sit on when rowing and you may need the board 'down' if in awkward conditons.  Again, the thwart on PW is aft of that.

3.  The thwart is also located so that when rowing, the aft main bulkhead acts as a foot rest, (though I often put a small fender there as well, to comfort old feet).

4.  I realize that in a small, canoe-sterned hull, extending the after edge of the thwart may upset the pitch of the hull when you are seated, causing the stern to drag.  Difficult one.

5.  The 'stern sheets' / aft thwart looks very low - while this is a good place for stability, there are two problems that ensue - firstly it can limit your view ahead.  More importantly, if you are sitting down there in such a narrow part of the hull, then your torso/neck is almost certainly going to get in the way of the tiller.  Oh joy!  I can just about squeeze to one side of said stick on PW and still maintain steerage to all intents and purposes; your situation is likely to prove more, er, interesting.  Again on PW, the tiller hinges upward to a degree creating a smidge of extra space at a push. With your mizzen, that is another teensy weensy problemette....

Bony old botties-up

Chris W

[inwe]

Having painted the inside of the hull I have started to deck it. Done bow and stern decks and am now
decking the side decks. Its starting to resemble a boat. Just realized how difficult it's going to be to access the bow storage. Oh well mod's might be in order but only AFTER I have got used to her so no comments on that score. Just deciding what colour to paint the deck, the inside is light grey.
Richard

[inwe]

Just glued and nailed decking - not trimmed up yet.







Richard

[Paul H (admin)]

Lovely curves - reminds me of the Heron.

-Paul

[philoxuk]

Ouch!!!

[inwe]

Just got the centre plate back from the galvanizers. It has been hot zinc sprayed. Just got to turn up a bronze bush and press it in.


Sorry about the truck, nothing to do with the weight, it's just where it landed.
Spent today filling and sanding the deck and punching the nail heads below the surface. I still haven't decided on the colour for the deck. The sheer is burgundy red, same as Calluna. Well I still had paint in the tin ! I'm going to make the rubbing strip from Keruing, hard and tough, ideal really.
Just finished making up the rudder pintles. I had a couple of aluminium gudgeons so I threaded some 10mm st/st and made up the pintles, turned the ends up. Fit a treat.

Richard

[John P]

Richard - you said "Just got to turn up a bronze bush and press it in."

I wonder if that is wise, not that I know for sure one way or the other.

Contact between a galvanised surface and copper or brass in a wet environment will damage the galvanising - see here for example: https://galvanizeit.org/hot-dip-galvanizing/how-long-does-hdg-last/in-contact-with-other-metals. Also, I recall from my days in the heating and airconditioning industry that we were not allowed to join galvanised pipes directly to copper pipe or brass fittings.

I realise that bronze is not brass, indeed there are a great many different kinds of bronze, but all kinds of bronze contain lots of copper.

A stainless steel bush might be better?  or to be completely sure a bush turned from something like Tufnol?

John